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krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:20 p.m.
CASE INFORMATION**

IN THE MAYFLOWER DISTRICT COURT FOR CLARK COUNTY

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CR-0037-24 State of Mayflower v. marinesactions13

Trial Type: Criminal

Judge Assigned: Judge Username - Courtroom 000

Complaint Link: Attached below

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UPCOMING COURT DATES



PAST COURT EVENTS**

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‌11/16 - Filed with Clerk
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Criminal, Felony
krabz pinned a message to this channel.2025-06-21 08:36 p.m.
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:20 p.m.
@Deleted User
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:20 p.m.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:20 p.m.
hey there
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:20 p.m.
real quick, I noticed a typo
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:21 p.m.
it should be marineaction13, that is my fault
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:21 p.m.
let me submit a quick amendment
Deleted UserDeleted User
it should be marineaction13, that is my fault
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:21 p.m.
Okay I will change it
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:22 p.m.
Just for the record, I did not include the specific location in all 20 something charges, because that is detailed ad-noisome in the affidavit of probable cause, and in the submitted video.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:22 p.m.
If I put all of that information we were looking at a 6 page plus CI
krabzatonin ᴏᴍkrabzatonin ᴏᴍ
Okay I will change it
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:22 p.m.
Thank you, I just checked the CI and it actually is spelled correct
Deleted UserDeleted User
Just for the record, I did not include the specific location in all 20 something charges, because that is detailed ad-noisome in the affidavit of probable cause, and in the submitt...
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:22 p.m.
That would bring me to my next point in regards to some inconsistencies with the AOPC and CI
krabzatonin ᴏᴍkrabzatonin ᴏᴍ
That would bring me to my next point in regards to some inconsistencies with the AOPC and CI
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:23 p.m.
I figured there would be some mistakes when transferring that many charges over
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:23 p.m.
In regards to certain charges not being included
Deleted UserDeleted User
In regards to certain charges not being included
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:23 p.m.
Yes this
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:24 p.m.
The DOJ chose not to pursue certain violations which the investigator concluded there was PC for. We do stipulate that there was probable cause, but decided to only pursue the 20 something charges that are listed.
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:26 p.m.
Okay, future judges might want you to indicate that fyi
Deleted UserDeleted User
it should be marineaction13, that is my fault
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:26 p.m.
Also is it marinesinaction13 or marineinaction13
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:26 p.m.
the s right?
krabzatonin ᴏᴍkrabzatonin ᴏᴍ
Okay, future judges might want you to indicate that fyi
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:26 p.m.
Yeah, it slipped my mind
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:26 p.m.
I meant to make a note
krabzatonin ᴏᴍkrabzatonin ᴏᴍ
Also is it marinesinaction13 or marineinaction13
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:26 p.m.
marinesinaction13
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:26 p.m.
Okay
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:27 p.m.
Do I need to amend the complaint are we gonna let that fall under good faith exception
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:27 p.m.
or are*
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:28 p.m.
oh it's entirely missing the "is"
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:29 p.m.
yeah, I copy and pasted a mispelling
Deleted UserDeleted User
Do I need to amend the complaint are we gonna let that fall under good faith exception
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:29 p.m.
Just to maintain conformity with crim pro, yes please- and also maybe this too
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:29 p.m.
when I was making the complaint
krabzatonin ᴏᴍkrabzatonin ᴏᴍ
Just to maintain conformity with crim pro, yes please- and also maybe this too
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:29 p.m.
Alright I'll have it amended shortly
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:29 p.m.
Okay thank you
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:35 p.m.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:35 p.m.
CC: @krabz
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:35 p.m.
Fixing the AoPC now
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:38 p.m.
cc: @krabz
Deleted UserDeleted User
Fixing the AoPC now
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:38 p.m.
I hate to be nitpicky but just to remain consistent with Mayfl. R. Crim. P. 3(2)(7), could you add if each count is a felony/misdemeanor?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:39 p.m.
I believe they are all felonies, but yeah I can go in and do that
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:39 p.m.
Okay thanks, just so there are no issues down the line
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:40 p.m.
yeah, I wouldn't want a certain lawyer to file 30 motions and give the court a history lesson on the importance of saying the offense type, they'd probably reference the magna carta
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:42 p.m.
@krabz
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:45 p.m.
Okay thanks reading soon
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:46 p.m.
sure thing
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-21 07:29 a.m.
@krabz Could we expect PC to be determined today, by chance?
Deleted UserDeleted User
@krabz Could we expect PC to be determined today, by chance?
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-22 10:06 p.m.
https://discord.com/channels/1274202187911790632/1282547751795691574/1309708344247844934

Sorry for the late notice, I'd rather this case be with a judge w/ more availability rather than me looking at it only on the weekends.
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-23 03:21 a.m.
This will be re-assigned by the Clerk
krabzatonin ᴏᴍkrabzatonin ᴏᴍ
This will be re-assigned by the Clerk
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-23 08:47 a.m.
Aight thanks
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-23 10:20 a.m.
Just for clerical purposes
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-23 10:21 a.m.
@DauuX Reassignment at earliest convenience please!!!1
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-23 07:31 p.m.
@DauuX
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-24 09:34 p.m.
@DauuX
DauuX
DauuX 2024-11-25 04:11 p.m.
Docketed to Judge @Doogy
DauuX
DauuX 2024-11-25 04:11 p.m.
cc @Deleted User
DauuXDauuX
Docketed to Judge @Doogy
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-25 04:11 p.m.
Thanks, you’re the man
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-25 04:12 p.m.
@Doogy Amended CI above. AoPC is in the trello. Hoping to get PC established today if at all possible.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-26 10:27 a.m.
@Doogy
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-27 09:47 a.m.
@Doogy
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-29 03:01 p.m.
Just letting the court know; I’ve moved into a different position within the DOJ, and as such different counsel will need to be appointed to represent this case. Given the state of flux we are in without an AG or DAG, I don’t have the power to assign another DOJ attorney to this case. Would the court please direct a State Attorney to be allocated?
Doogy
Doogy 2024-11-29 09:08 p.m.
That's the DoJ's responsibility.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-29 09:14 p.m.
Im doing my due diligence to inform the court that I have no way to get new counsel assigned. So, this may need to get delayed until the new AG is confirmed.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2024-11-30 05:21 p.m.
@Doogy @JaroCycle Has been assigned as state's counsel
Doogy
Doogy 2024-12-03 10:10 a.m.
Waiting on a filed NoA for the new state attorney.
Doogy
Doogy 2024-12-05 12:21 p.m.
@Deverus added.
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-05 12:51 p.m.
Morning judge. Can we get that probable cause hearing underway so we can get to summons? @Doogy
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-06 11:06 p.m.
@Doogy hi judge
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-07 11:33 p.m.
@honkhonk Directing to the clerk for re-assignment.
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-07 11:40 p.m.
cc: @shah
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-08 12:50 a.m.
@krabz seeing as you’re also a clerk
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-12-08 12:53 a.m.
Inquiring.
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-12-08 01:00 a.m.
Clerk notice: This has been re-assigned to Hon. AwesomePIays
CC: @Doogy @Awesome @Deverus
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-08 01:45 a.m.
with all respect, your honour, i will be verbally requesting your recusal.

thank you.

@Awesome
DeverusDeverus
with all respect, your honour, i will be verbally requesting your recusal. thank you. @Awesome
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-08 05:17 a.m.
Grounds?
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-08 05:22 a.m.
you're employed in the DOJ in the division which i supervise.
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-08 05:22 a.m.
you're my employee.
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-08 05:22 a.m.
i'd rather not have a mistrial.
DeverusDeverus
you're employed in the DOJ in the division which i supervise.
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-08 05:31 a.m.
I’ll grant for the appearance. For the record, I plan to resign from the DOJ once I’m accepted into the Court’s group.
Awesome
Awesome 2024-12-08 05:31 a.m.
cc: @Clerk of the Court
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-08 05:32 a.m.
thank you, your honour. looking forward to seeing you again soon.
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-12-08 02:16 p.m.
Clerk notice: This has been re-assigned to Hon. insertreality following Hon. AwesomePIays' recusal.
CC: @mike_bn @Deverus
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 02:40 p.m.
@Deverus sup
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 02:41 p.m.
ill rule on pc
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 03:48 p.m.
@Deverus I find pc on all counts except for counts 20-25
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 03:49 p.m.
lack of consent is an element of arson, which is not alleged here
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-08 04:46 p.m.
god damnit.
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-08 04:46 p.m.
would the court grant leave to revise the information. i only just recently took this case over. @mike_bn
DeverusDeverus
would the court grant leave to revise the information. i only just recently took this case over. @mike_bn
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 05:16 p.m.
how long do you need
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 05:16 p.m.
this would be the 3rd revision
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-08 05:16 p.m.
And it won't need another, your honour. 12 hours will suffice, I have some papers I need to write first.
DeverusDeverus
And it won't need another, your honour. 12 hours will suffice, I have some papers I need to write first.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 05:17 p.m.
sure 12 hours leave granted
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 05:17 p.m.
it will be due 5:17 AM DEC 9
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 05:17 p.m.
EST
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 05:18 p.m.
@john123 hello can you speak
john123
john123 2024-12-08 05:31 p.m.
hello
john123
john123 2024-12-08 05:31 p.m.
sorry about that I was eating irl
mike_bnmike_bn
@john123 hello can you speak
john123
john123 2024-12-08 05:32 p.m.
what do I need to speak about
john123
john123 2024-12-08 05:40 p.m.
hello
john123john123
what do I need to speak about
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 05:42 p.m.
find a lawyer pls
john123
john123 2024-12-08 05:42 p.m.
ok
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-12-08 10:45 p.m.
@leoisnoob has filed a notice of appearance with the Court and has been added (counsel for Defendant).
CC: @mike_bn @leoisnoob @john123
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 11:15 p.m.
@leoisnoob HI
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2024-12-08 11:21 p.m.
Hi Hi Hi
krabzatonin ᴏᴍkrabzatonin ᴏᴍ
@leoisnoob has filed a notice of appearance with the Court and has been added (counsel for Defendant). CC: @mike_bn @leoisnoob <@8696721737684...
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2024-12-08 11:21 p.m.
Thx
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2024-12-08 11:21 p.m.
Hi all
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 11:51 p.m.
@leoisnoob good evening
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 11:51 p.m.
how it stands the court found no pc on count 20-25
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 11:51 p.m.
the state is fixing their ci and must do so before 5 am est on dec 9
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-08 11:52 p.m.
let the record reflect that i hate finals.
DeverusDeverus
let the record reflect that i hate finals.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 11:57 p.m.
lol my finals finished last week
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 11:57 p.m.
@Deverus is the deadline good?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-08 11:58 p.m.
not letting you stay up all night for lego court
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-08 11:59 p.m.
yeah it's fine. just need to knock out this paper and get a cigar in me and then i'll hammer out the superceding information and another episode of house of cards before i lie down.

alas, i appreciate the concern your honour.
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-09 04:21 a.m.
STATE'S SUPERCEDING INFORMATION
cc: @mike_bn @leoisnoob
DeverusDeverus
STATE'S SUPERCEDING INFORMATION cc: @mike_bn @leoisnoob
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2024-12-09 06:03 a.m.
your Honor @mike_bn,

the defendant moves to dismiss the 28 new charges in the superseding CI because they are unsupported by any affidavit of probable cause

the prosecution has filed a superseding CI without submitting a supplemental aopc to support these new charges. without probable cause established with evidence, these charges cannot stand and are procedurally defective

thus we respectfully request that these charges be dismissed because they are not supported with probable cause or evidence which is required to bring them against my client
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-09 09:31 a.m.
…There was an affidavit of probable cause with the initial filing. That affidavit is still valid.
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-09 09:34 a.m.
Just because I write up a superseding information to change the charging language does not mean a brand new affidavit needs to be filed in support, unless there are new charges added which were not supported by the original affidavit.
DeverusDeverus
Just because I write up a superseding information to change the charging language does not mean a brand new affidavit needs to be filed in support, unless there are new charges add...
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2024-12-09 10:53 a.m.
my mistake
leoisnoobleoisnoob
your Honor @mike_bn, the defendant moves to dismiss the 28 new charges in the superseding CI because they are unsupported by any affidavit of probable cause the pro...
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2024-12-09 10:54 a.m.
retracted
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2024-12-09 10:57 a.m.
though i move to dismiss counts eighteen and nineteen (Attempted Murder) on the grounds that the charging language is impermissibly vague
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2024-12-09 10:57 a.m.
the charges merely allege "deliberate and malicious steps" without describing any specific actions that constitute a substantial step toward committing murder
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-09 11:17 a.m.
The purpose of an information is to state the charges and inform the defendant of the offenses committed, not tell a story.
DeverusDeverus
The purpose of an information is to state the charges and inform the defendant of the offenses committed, not tell a story.
john123
john123 2024-12-09 11:52 a.m.
whens the actual date
john123
john123 2024-12-09 11:52 a.m.
for everything
DeverusDeverus
The purpose of an information is to state the charges and inform the defendant of the offenses committed, not tell a story.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:30 p.m.
can u upload to google drive too
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:30 p.m.
so i dont have to keep downloading it
leoisnoobleoisnoob
though i move to dismiss counts eighteen and nineteen (Attempted Murder) on the grounds that the charging language is impermissibly vague
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:30 p.m.
you do make a point here
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:31 p.m.
however
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:32 p.m.
the supporting pc statement does outline these steps
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:32 p.m.
although i agree the state should of included those steps in the ci
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:32 p.m.
ruling on pc:
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:33 p.m.
im going to find probable cause for all counts of the information
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:33 p.m.
@john123 coordinate with your lawyer about how you wish to plea to these charges
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:33 p.m.
@leoisnoob let me know once your client has decided how to move forward and ill schedule us for an arraignment
DeverusDeverus
The purpose of an information is to state the charges and inform the defendant of the offenses committed, not tell a story.
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2024-12-09 02:09 p.m.
it must inform the defendant of the offenses alleged with sufficient specificity
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2024-12-09 02:09 p.m.
in order to mount a defense
mike_bnmike_bn
the supporting pc statement does outline these steps
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2024-12-09 02:33 p.m.
courts generally consider only the indictment itself to determine whether or not the indictment is sufficient United States v. Critzer, 951 F.2d 306, 307-08 (11th Cir. 1992)
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2024-12-09 02:35 p.m.
the affidavit may provide context but it is not part of the indictment
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 03:11 p.m.
right but i take into account the pc statement
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 03:11 p.m.
that goes into my determination
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 03:11 p.m.
in the statement it outlined the steps and premeditation
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 03:11 p.m.
theres a reason the rules of procedure require a statement, its not for show
leoisnoobleoisnoob
courts generally consider only the indictment itself to determine whether or not the indictment is sufficient United States v. Critzer, 951 F.2d 306, 307-08 (11th Cir. 1992)
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 03:11 p.m.
im going to deny this
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 03:12 p.m.
lets move toward arraignment
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 03:12 p.m.
lets see how your client wants to plea
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-09 03:13 p.m.
we are adjourned until tomorrow, i hope we have a plea decided by then
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-10 10:48 a.m.
PLEA AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE STATE AND THE DEFENDANT
cc: @mike_bn @john123 @leoisnoob
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-10 10:48 a.m.
Your honour, the State and the Defense have entered into a plea agreement.
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-10 10:51 a.m.
For your convenience, your honour.
DeverusDeverus
PLEA AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE STATE AND THE DEFENDANT cc: @mike_bn @john123 @leoisnoob
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 11:58 a.m.
wonderful
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 11:58 a.m.
a quick resolution
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 11:58 a.m.
i commend you counselors @Deverus @leoisnoob
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 12:00 p.m.
when can we meet for an arraignment
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-10 12:04 p.m.
I’m available tonight and tomorrow after 9PM EST.
DeverusDeverus
I’m available tonight and tomorrow after 9PM EST.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 12:10 p.m.
lets do a continuous arraignment
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 12:10 p.m.
@john123 hello sir
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 12:16 p.m.
lets do this
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 12:17 p.m.
@john123 Do you swear that the evidence you shall give to the court in this matter shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, under the pains and penalties of perjury?
john123
john123 2024-12-10 12:51 p.m.
yes
john123john123
yes
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 01:01 p.m.
Great
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 01:02 p.m.
once im home im going to ask you a chunk of questions
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 01:02 p.m.
answer them in one chunk of text
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 01:02 p.m.
in the order they are asked
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 01:02 p.m.
does that work?
john123
john123 2024-12-10 01:32 p.m.
ok
john123john123
ok
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 06:25 p.m.
Questions for Defendant:

1. If there is something I say that you do not understand, or if you have a problem understanding a question I ask, please tell me and ask me to explain or repeat it. Do you understand that?

2. Are you feeling the effects right now of any medication, drugs or alcohol
that you may have consumed?

3. Do you feel alert, awake and clear-headed today?

4. You have the right to have an attorney represent you during all stages of the proceedings. The court will appoint an attorney for you to serve at public expense if you cannot afford an attorney of your own choice. Do you understand that?

5. Have you discussed this case completely with your attorney?

6. Are you confident that you understand your attorney's advice?

7. Have you listened carefully to that advice and thought about it in making
your decision to plead guilty?

8. The decision to plead guilty must be your own decision, not your attorney's.
Do you understand that?

9. Is this in fact your own decision to plead guilty?

10. Do you think that this is the best decision for you to make?

11. Is this decision also, at least in part, because you actually are guilty of the
crime you intend to admit?

Trial Rights Given Up:

12. If I accept your guilty plea you will be convicted of the crime to which you
are pleading guilty today, and you will not have a trial. Do you understand?

13. There are constitutional rights you would have at a trial, but you are giving
them up permanently in this case by pleading guilty. I need to make sure
that you understand the rights you are giving up.
a. You give up the right to enter or continue a plea of not guilty, and to
have a trial by jury with a lawyer assisting you.
b. You give up the right to be presumed innocent, and the right to have
the government prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you are guilty.
c. You give up the right to watch and listen as the witnesses against
you testify, and the right to confront those witnesses, that is to
question or challenge those witnesses. You give up the right to have
the court order witnesses you may have in your defense to come into
court and give testimony if you wanted to present a case.
d. You give up the right to chose whether to testify or to remain silent
during trial.
e. You give up the right to appeal your conviction
based on this plea, and the right to appeal your sentence as long as I
sentence you generally in accord with the way your sentence has
been estimated or recommended in the Rule 11 agreement.
f. Your decision to plead guilty means that you give up each of these
rights permanently in this case. Do you understand the rights I have
just explained?
(edited)
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 06:26 p.m.
@john123
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 06:27 p.m.
Then @leoisnoob Are you aware of any negative information
concerning the defendant's competence that I should be aware of?
mike_bnmike_bn
Then @leoisnoob Are you aware of any negative information concerning the defendant's competence that I should be aware of?
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2024-12-10 06:27 p.m.
No, your honor
leoisnoobleoisnoob
No, your honor
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 06:27 p.m.
Thank you
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 06:27 p.m.
ill continue with the other batch of questions once the defendant answers
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-10 10:57 p.m.
@john123 let me know
mike_bnmike_bn
Questions for Defendant: 1. If there is something I say that you do not understand, or if you have a problem understanding a question I ask, please tell me and ask me to explain ...(edited)
john123
john123 2024-12-11 12:24 p.m.
1) Yes
2) No
3) Yes
4) Yes
5) Yes
6) Yes
7) Yes
8) Yes
9) Yes, under the circumstance I do not receive the death penalty, just a long sentence
10) Yes
11) I'm guilty to some crimes, I think some of the charges are exxagarated
12) Yes
13) Yes
john123
john123 2024-12-11 12:25 p.m.
Also say I wanted to expunge my record that is impossible now due to the conviction correct?
john123john123
1) Yes 2) No 3) Yes 4) Yes 5) Yes 6) Yes 7) Yes 8) Yes 9) Yes, under the circumstance I do not receive the death penalty, just a long sentence 10) Yes 11) I'm guilty to some crimes...
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:28 p.m.
Ok well im not convicting you if you believe you are innocent
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:29 p.m.
when you say exaggerated, do you mean the charges are false
or they are just a bit of a strech, but true
john123
john123 2024-12-11 01:29 p.m.
Well I dont want to run the risk of being executed
john123
john123 2024-12-11 01:29 p.m.
at MNG
mike_bnmike_bn
when you say exaggerated, do you mean the charges are false or they are just a bit of a strech, but true
john123
john123 2024-12-11 01:29 p.m.
Some of them are just added charges
john123
john123 2024-12-11 01:29 p.m.
That shouldnt be there(edited)
john123
john123 2024-12-11 01:29 p.m.
I do think they have been exxagarated quite a bit
john123john123
Some of them are just added charges
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:29 p.m.
But you agree the conduct outlined in the probable cause statement is true?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:30 p.m.
That you blew up a crowd of people
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:31 p.m.
i cannot convict you unless you believe youre guilty on everything
john123
john123 2024-12-11 01:36 p.m.
Is my lawyer allowed to speak for me
john123
john123 2024-12-11 01:36 p.m.
Or do I have to do all the talking
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:42 p.m.
you do
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:42 p.m.
@john123
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:43 p.m.
i mean if you’re afraid of admitting guilt, you already did that when you plead guilty
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:43 p.m.
or when you do
mike_bnmike_bn
i cannot convict you unless you believe youre guilty on everything
john123
john123 2024-12-11 01:45 p.m.
Ok yes
john123
john123 2024-12-11 01:45 p.m.
I am pleading guilty for all charges
john123john123
I am pleading guilty for all charges
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:57 p.m.
Okay so you are accepting all the allegations as true
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:58 p.m.
in the complaint
john123
john123 2024-12-11 01:58 p.m.
yes
john123john123
yes
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 02:13 p.m.
great
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 02:18 p.m.
I hereby adjudicate the defendant guilty on all counts of the information
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 02:19 p.m.
@Deverus @leoisnoob anything further before i impose a sentence?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 02:19 p.m.
also @john123 if i impose a condition not said in the agreement you have the right to withdraw your plea
mike_bnmike_bn
also @john123 if i impose a condition not said in the agreement you have the right to withdraw your plea
john123
john123 2024-12-11 02:21 p.m.
as long as theres is no death penalty
john123
john123 2024-12-11 02:21 p.m.
I want to plead guilty
mike_bnmike_bn
@Deverus @leoisnoob anything further before i impose a sentence?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 02:37 p.m.
?
mike_bnmike_bn
@Deverus @leoisnoob anything further before i impose a sentence?
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-11 02:44 p.m.
Per the stipulation of the plea agreement, the state is recommending that the court sentence the defendant to 930 minutes imprisonment, which is the total sum of the maximum sentence for all counts charged.

That is all, your honour.
mike_bnmike_bn
?
john123
john123 2024-12-11 02:44 p.m.
I doubt my lawyer has anything else to say
john123
john123 2024-12-11 02:44 p.m.
but we can wait if thats what u want
john123john123
I doubt my lawyer has anything else to say
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 02:46 p.m.
ill enter my sentence once home to give your attorney time
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 02:46 p.m.
then ill verify all of our procedural obligations were met
john123
john123 2024-12-11 02:49 p.m.
Ok
mike_bnmike_bn
@Deverus @leoisnoob anything further before i impose a sentence?
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2024-12-11 05:13 p.m.
No your honor
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2024-12-11 05:14 p.m.
However due to my clients cooperation in this case, I would ask you to please consider a less lengthy sentence then Mr Deverus’s recommendation. No one wants to spend 930 minutes imprisoned on a Roblox game
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:35 p.m.
@john123 @leoisnoob @Deverus
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:37 p.m.
i find that the defendant is mentally compenent and understands the ramifications with entering a guilty plea. I also find that he understands his rights, and that he voluntarily waives them
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:37 p.m.
thus the defendant is competent to enter their guilty plea, and the court accepts that guilty plea
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:38 p.m.
as for sentencing, 930 minutes is over half a day in prison
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:38 p.m.
i have to balance fairness but also public safety
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:39 p.m.
the defendant admitted to using a explosive device to bomb a populated area, killing over a dozen people
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:40 p.m.
however, 930 minutes is a long ass time
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:40 p.m.
i recongize the agreement, but thats a bit much
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:41 p.m.
my sentence:
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:47 p.m.
I hereby adjudicate the defendant guilty on all counts of the information. I sentence the Defendant to 720 minutes of incarceration.

I am also imposing these additional terms:
- the defendant is NOT to further possess any explosive devices, if he has any in his possession, he shall surrender them upon turning himself in
- the defendant must seek gainful employment or a demonstrate a legal means of financially supporting himself within 7 days of being released from custody
- when i enter this order in game, the defendant MUST, within 24 hrs, turn himself in
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:47 p.m.
@leoisnoob @john123 @Deverus
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-11 06:47 p.m.
You’re entering it as a conviction, and not as a warrant- correct?
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-11 06:48 p.m.
Just the concern of the in-game arrest system not being able to enact the full sentence, your honor.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:48 p.m.
yes a conviction
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:48 p.m.
if hes convicted does he automatically teleport to jail?
Deverus
Deverus 2024-12-11 06:48 p.m.
Understood. The verbiage of your order seemed to suggest it may be a warrant.

To my understand, yes he does your honour. @mike_bn
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:49 p.m.
great then scratch that term
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:49 p.m.
let me go in game and enter this order
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:49 p.m.
ill enter my affirmative findings in the order
mike_bnmike_bn
I hereby adjudicate the defendant guilty on all counts of the information. I sentence the Defendant to 720 minutes of incarceration. I am also imposing these additional terms: -...
john123
john123 2024-12-11 06:52 p.m.
Respectfully your honor
john123
john123 2024-12-11 06:52 p.m.
I doubt il be hired to any job with a 17x felony record
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:52 p.m.
gainful employment means anything
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:52 p.m.
do cargo
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:53 p.m.
work for a private company
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:53 p.m.
taxi job
john123
john123 2024-12-11 06:53 p.m.
I do wood
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:53 p.m.
show proof of that
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:53 p.m.
and we are set
john123
john123 2024-12-11 06:53 p.m.
When can i join in game
john123
john123 2024-12-11 06:53 p.m.
To do my sentence
john123john123
To do my sentence
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:24 p.m.
ill lyk
mike_bnmike_bn
ill lyk
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:43 p.m.
Oh yeah
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:44 p.m.
While we are in the courtroom your honour i have something unrelated to the case but I want to report it directly to you
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:44 p.m.
Is that ok
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:46 p.m.
The Defendant was charged on the 16th of November, 2024, with seventeen counts of First Degree Murder, two counts of Attempted Murder, six counts of Arson, and one count of Discharging of a Destructive Device Causing Death or Bodily Harm. The Defendant later, in an agreement with the state, plead guilty to all counts of the information, in exchange for the state not pursuing the death penalty, and instead imposing a 930 minute sentence.

The court accepted the Defendant's guilty plea. In reviewing sentencing, the court must consider the aggravating circumstances surrounding the incident. The Defendant admitted to utilizing a bomb to cause death and destruction to a large gathering of people, causing the death of 17, and tens of thousands of dollars in property damage.

The court must now consider what is fair for justice, and the Defendant. I find that a sentence of over 16 hours in lego jail is too much, thus, the court enters as follows:

- The Defendant shall be sentenced to 720 minutes of incarceration upon release of this order. - The Defendant, within one week of completing his sentence, must demonstrate he is gainfully employed in a lawful area of business (working for a company, or conducting trade). - The Defendant is not to ever again possess any explosive devices, upon being released from incarceration. If the Defendant has explosive devices in his possession, he is to turn them over to a law enforcement officer, who is not permitted to charge the Defendant with such possession.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:46 p.m.
the arrest order is published @john123
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:46 p.m.
let me know if you go to jail
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:46 p.m.
we will keep this open until jan 2, which is when we will review if the other conditions of the sentence are met
mike_bnmike_bn
the arrest order is published @john123
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:47 p.m.
does that mean i can join now
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:47 p.m.
and get arreested
john123john123
does that mean i can join now
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:47 p.m.
yes
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:47 p.m.
you should tp to jail
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:47 p.m.
let me know
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:47 p.m.
ok
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:47 p.m.
we shall see
john123john123
we shall see
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:49 p.m.
lmk
mike_bnmike_bn
lmk
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:49 p.m.
:😭:
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:49 p.m.
okay great
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:49 p.m.
cant you leave and the sentence will still run
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:49 p.m.
this sentence equivalent of like 80 years
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:49 p.m.
irl
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:49 p.m.
80 years for murdering 15 people aint bad
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:50 p.m.
realistically irl id have infinite
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:50 p.m.
years
mike_bnmike_bn
cant you leave and the sentence will still run
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:50 p.m.
yea
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:50 p.m.
ok great
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:50 p.m.
enjoy your 12 hours of
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:50 p.m.
cell time
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:50 p.m.
dont drop the soap!
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:50 p.m.
i havent been playing anyway dont wanna accidently incriminate myself more
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:51 p.m.
during a high profile court case
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:51 p.m.
we are adjourned until JAN 2
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:51 p.m.
@john123 speak to your attorney about your progress with the 2 other conditions
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:51 p.m.
:👍:
mike_bnmike_bn
@john123 speak to your attorney about your progress with the 2 other conditions
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:52 p.m.
do u want me to report progress to him
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:52 p.m.
about the legal job
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:52 p.m.
or directly to you
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:52 p.m.
or report it to him and he report it to you
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:52 p.m.
him
john123
john123 2024-12-11 07:52 p.m.
ok
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-11 11:11 p.m.
adjourned until jan 2
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-29 09:52 a.m.
@john123 ok do you have proof of lawful employment/self employment
john123
john123 2024-12-30 06:11 a.m.
john123
john123 2024-12-30 06:12 a.m.
Work for lander taxi
john123
john123 2024-12-30 06:12 a.m.
@mike_bn
john123john123
Click to see attachment.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-30 07:08 a.m.
amazing!
mike_bn
mike_bn 2024-12-30 07:08 a.m.
@Deverus anything further before i archive?
Deverus
Deverus 2025-01-04 04:59 p.m.
non
john123
john123 2025-03-02 04:55 p.m.
@mike_bn Yo
john123
john123 2025-03-02 04:55 p.m.
Ik this is way past now but when could I expunge this(edited)
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