state-of-mayflower-v-marinesinaction13

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#state-of-mayflower-v-marinesinaction13

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krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:20 p.m.

https://trello.com/c/ZIdFxEp3/246-state-of-mayflower-v-marinesactions13

CASE INFORMATION**

IN THE MAYFLOWER DISTRICT COURT FOR CLARK COUNTY

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CR-0037-24 State of Mayflower v. marinesactions13

Trial Type: Criminal

Judge Assigned: Judge Username - Courtroom 000

Complaint Link: Attached below

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UPCOMING COURT DATES

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PAST COURT EVENTS**

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‌11/16 - Filed with Clerk
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Criminal, Felony

krabz pinned a message to this channel.2025-06-21 08:36 p.m.

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:20 p.m.

@Deleted User

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:20 p.m.

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:20 p.m.

hey there

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:20 p.m.

real quick, I noticed a typo

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:21 p.m.

it should be marineaction13, that is my fault

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:21 p.m.

let me submit a quick amendment

Deleted User

it should be marineaction13, that is my fault

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:21 p.m.

Okay I will change it

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:22 p.m.

Just for the record, I did not include the specific location in all 20 something charges, because that is detailed ad-noisome in the affidavit of probable cause, and in the submitted video.

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:22 p.m.

If I put all of that information we were looking at a 6 page plus CI

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ

Okay I will change it

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:22 p.m.

Thank you, I just checked the CI and it actually is spelled correct

Deleted User

Just for the record, I did not include the specific location in all 20 something charges, because that is detailed ad-noisome in the affidavit of probable cause, and in the submitt...

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:22 p.m.

That would bring me to my next point in regards to some inconsistencies with the AOPC and CI

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ

That would bring me to my next point in regards to some inconsistencies with the AOPC and CI

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:23 p.m.

I figured there would be some mistakes when transferring that many charges over

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:23 p.m.

In regards to certain charges not being included

Deleted User

In regards to certain charges not being included

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:23 p.m.

Yes this

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:24 p.m.

The DOJ chose not to pursue certain violations which the investigator concluded there was PC for. We do stipulate that there was probable cause, but decided to only pursue the 20 something charges that are listed.

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:26 p.m.

Okay, future judges might want you to indicate that fyi

Deleted User

it should be marineaction13, that is my fault

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:26 p.m.

Also is it marinesinaction13 or marineinaction13

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:26 p.m.

the s right?

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ

Okay, future judges might want you to indicate that fyi

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:26 p.m.

Yeah, it slipped my mind

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:26 p.m.

I meant to make a note

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ

Also is it marinesinaction13 or marineinaction13

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:26 p.m.

marinesinaction13

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:26 p.m.

Okay

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:27 p.m.

Do I need to amend the complaint are we gonna let that fall under good faith exception

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:27 p.m.

or are*

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:28 p.m.

oh it's entirely missing the "is"

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:29 p.m.

yeah, I copy and pasted a mispelling

Deleted User

Do I need to amend the complaint are we gonna let that fall under good faith exception

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:29 p.m.

Just to maintain conformity with crim pro, yes please- and also maybe this too

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:29 p.m.

when I was making the complaint

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ

Just to maintain conformity with crim pro, yes please- and also maybe this too

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:29 p.m.

Alright I'll have it amended shortly

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:29 p.m.

Okay thank you

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:35 p.m.

CC: @krabz

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:35 p.m.

Fixing the AoPC now

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:38 p.m.

cc: @krabz

Deleted User

Fixing the AoPC now

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:38 p.m.

I hate to be nitpicky but just to remain consistent with Mayfl. R. Crim. P. 3(2)(7), could you add if each count is a felony/misdemeanor?

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:39 p.m.

I believe they are all felonies, but yeah I can go in and do that

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:39 p.m.

Okay thanks, just so there are no issues down the line

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:40 p.m.

yeah, I wouldn't want a certain lawyer to file 30 motions and give the court a history lesson on the importance of saying the offense type, they'd probably reference the magna carta

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:42 p.m.

@krabz

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-20 08:45 p.m.

Okay thanks reading soon

Deleted User 2024-11-20 08:46 p.m.

sure thing

Deleted User 2024-11-21 07:29 a.m.

@krabz

Could we expect PC to be determined today, by chance?

Deleted User

@krabz Could we expect PC to be determined today, by chance?

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-22 10:06 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/1274202187911790632/1282547751795691574/1309708344247844934

Sorry for the late notice, I'd rather this case be with a judge w/ more availability rather than me looking at it only on the weekends.

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-11-23 03:21 a.m.

This will be re-assigned by the Clerk

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ

This will be re-assigned by the Clerk

Deleted User 2024-11-23 08:47 a.m.

Aight thanks

Deleted User 2024-11-23 10:20 a.m.

Just for clerical purposes

Deleted User 2024-11-23 10:21 a.m.

@DauuX

Reassignment at earliest convenience please!!!1

Deleted User 2024-11-23 07:31 p.m.

@DauuX

Deleted User 2024-11-24 09:34 p.m.

@DauuX

DauuX 2024-11-25 04:11 p.m.

Docketed to Judge @Doogy

DauuX 2024-11-25 04:11 p.m.

cc @Deleted User

DauuX

Docketed to Judge @Doogy

Deleted User 2024-11-25 04:11 p.m.

Thanks, you’re the man

Deleted User 2024-11-25 04:12 p.m.

@Doogy

Amended CI above. AoPC is in the trello. Hoping to get PC established today if at all possible.

Deleted User 2024-11-26 10:27 a.m.

@Doogy

Deleted User 2024-11-27 09:47 a.m.

@Doogy

Deleted User 2024-11-29 03:01 p.m.

Just letting the court know; I’ve moved into a different position within the DOJ, and as such different counsel will need to be appointed to represent this case. Given the state of flux we are in without an AG or DAG, I don’t have the power to assign another DOJ attorney to this case. Would the court please direct a State Attorney to be allocated?

Doogy 2024-11-29 09:08 p.m.

That's the DoJ's responsibility.

Deleted User 2024-11-29 09:14 p.m.

Im doing my due diligence to inform the court that I have no way to get new counsel assigned. So, this may need to get delayed until the new AG is confirmed.

Deleted User 2024-11-30 05:21 p.m.

@Doogy

@JaroCycle

Has been assigned as state's counsel

Doogy 2024-12-03 10:10 a.m.

Waiting on a filed NoA for the new state attorney.

Doogy 2024-12-05 12:21 p.m.

@Deverus

added.

Deverus 2024-12-05 12:51 p.m.

Morning judge. Can we get that probable cause hearing underway so we can get to summons? @Doogy

Deverus 2024-12-06 11:06 p.m.

@Doogy

hi judge

Deverus 2024-12-07 11:33 p.m.

@honkhonk

Directing to the clerk for re-assignment.

Deverus 2024-12-07 11:40 p.m.

cc: @shah

Deverus 2024-12-08 12:50 a.m.

@krabz

seeing as you’re also a clerk

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-12-08 12:53 a.m.

Inquiring.

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-12-08 01:00 a.m.

Clerk notice: This has been re-assigned to Hon. AwesomePIays

CC: @Doogy @Awesome @Deverus

Deverus 2024-12-08 01:45 a.m.

with all respect, your honour, i will be verbally requesting your recusal.

thank you.

@Awesome

Deverus

with all respect, your honour, i will be verbally requesting your recusal. thank you. @Awesome

Awesome 2024-12-08 05:17 a.m.

Grounds?

Deverus 2024-12-08 05:22 a.m.

you're employed in the DOJ in the division which i supervise.

Deverus 2024-12-08 05:22 a.m.

you're my employee.

Deverus 2024-12-08 05:22 a.m.

i'd rather not have a mistrial.

Deverus

you're employed in the DOJ in the division which i supervise.

Awesome 2024-12-08 05:31 a.m.

I’ll grant for the appearance. For the record, I plan to resign from the DOJ once I’m accepted into the Court’s group.

Awesome 2024-12-08 05:31 a.m.

cc: @Clerk of the Court

Deverus 2024-12-08 05:32 a.m.

thank you, your honour. looking forward to seeing you again soon.

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-12-08 02:16 p.m.

Clerk notice: This has been re-assigned to Hon. insertreality following Hon. AwesomePIays' recusal.

CC: @mike_bn @Deverus

mike_bn 2024-12-08 02:40 p.m.

@Deverus

sup

mike_bn 2024-12-08 02:41 p.m.

ill rule on pc

mike_bn 2024-12-08 03:48 p.m.

@Deverus

I find pc on all counts except for counts 20-25

mike_bn 2024-12-08 03:49 p.m.

lack of consent is an element of arson, which is not alleged here

Deverus 2024-12-08 04:46 p.m.

god damnit.

Deverus 2024-12-08 04:46 p.m.

would the court grant leave to revise the information. i only just recently took this case over. @mike_bn

Deverus

would the court grant leave to revise the information. i only just recently took this case over. @mike_bn

mike_bn 2024-12-08 05:16 p.m.

how long do you need

mike_bn 2024-12-08 05:16 p.m.

this would be the 3rd revision

Deverus 2024-12-08 05:16 p.m.

And it won't need another, your honour. 12 hours will suffice, I have some papers I need to write first.

Deverus

And it won't need another, your honour. 12 hours will suffice, I have some papers I need to write first.

mike_bn 2024-12-08 05:17 p.m.

sure 12 hours leave granted

mike_bn 2024-12-08 05:17 p.m.

it will be due 5:17 AM DEC 9

mike_bn 2024-12-08 05:17 p.m.

EST

mike_bn 2024-12-08 05:18 p.m.

@john123

hello can you speak

john123 2024-12-08 05:31 p.m.

hello

john123 2024-12-08 05:31 p.m.

sorry about that I was eating irl

mike_bn

@john123 hello can you speak

john123 2024-12-08 05:32 p.m.

what do I need to speak about

john123 2024-12-08 05:40 p.m.

hello

john123

what do I need to speak about

mike_bn 2024-12-08 05:42 p.m.

find a lawyer pls

john123 2024-12-08 05:42 p.m.

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2024-12-08 10:45 p.m.

@leoisnoob

has filed a notice of appearance with the Court and has been added (counsel for Defendant).

CC: @mike_bn @leoisnoob @john123

mike_bn 2024-12-08 11:15 p.m.

@leoisnoob

leoisnoob 2024-12-08 11:21 p.m.

Hi Hi Hi

krabzatonin ᴏᴍ

@leoisnoob has filed a notice of appearance with the Court and has been added (counsel for Defendant). CC: @mike_bn @leoisnoob <@8696721737684...

leoisnoob 2024-12-08 11:21 p.m.

Thx

leoisnoob 2024-12-08 11:21 p.m.

Hi all

mike_bn 2024-12-08 11:51 p.m.

@leoisnoob

good evening

mike_bn 2024-12-08 11:51 p.m.

how it stands the court found no pc on count 20-25

mike_bn 2024-12-08 11:51 p.m.

the state is fixing their ci and must do so before 5 am est on dec 9

Deverus 2024-12-08 11:52 p.m.

let the record reflect that i hate finals.

Deverus

let the record reflect that i hate finals.

mike_bn 2024-12-08 11:57 p.m.

lol my finals finished last week

mike_bn 2024-12-08 11:57 p.m.

@Deverus

is the deadline good?

mike_bn 2024-12-08 11:58 p.m.

not letting you stay up all night for lego court

Deverus 2024-12-08 11:59 p.m.

yeah it's fine. just need to knock out this paper and get a cigar in me and then i'll hammer out the superceding information and another episode of house of cards before i lie down.

alas, i appreciate the concern your honour.

Deverus 2024-12-09 04:21 a.m.

STATE'S SUPERCEDING INFORMATION

cc: @mike_bn @leoisnoob

Deverus

STATE'S SUPERCEDING INFORMATION cc: @mike_bn

@leoisnoob

leoisnoob 2024-12-09 06:03 a.m.

your Honor @mike_bn,

the defendant moves to dismiss the 28 new charges in the superseding CI because they are unsupported by any affidavit of probable cause

the prosecution has filed a superseding CI without submitting a supplemental aopc to support these new charges. without probable cause established with evidence, these charges cannot stand and are procedurally defective

thus we respectfully request that these charges be dismissed because they are not supported with probable cause or evidence which is required to bring them against my client

Deverus 2024-12-09 09:31 a.m.

…There was an affidavit of probable cause with the initial filing. That affidavit is still valid.

Deverus 2024-12-09 09:34 a.m.

Just because I write up a superseding information to change the charging language does not mean a brand new affidavit needs to be filed in support, unless there are new charges added which were not supported by the original affidavit.

Deverus

Just because I write up a superseding information to change the charging language does not mean a brand new affidavit needs to be filed in support, unless there are new charges add...

leoisnoob 2024-12-09 10:53 a.m.

my mistake

leoisnoob

your Honor @mike_bn, the defendant moves to dismiss the 28 new charges in the superseding CI because they are unsupported by any affidavit of probable cause the pro...

leoisnoob 2024-12-09 10:54 a.m.

retracted

leoisnoob 2024-12-09 10:57 a.m.

though i move to dismiss counts eighteen and nineteen (Attempted Murder) on the grounds that the charging language is impermissibly vague

leoisnoob 2024-12-09 10:57 a.m.

the charges merely allege "deliberate and malicious steps" without describing any specific actions that constitute a substantial step toward committing murder

Deverus 2024-12-09 11:17 a.m.

The purpose of an information is to state the charges and inform the defendant of the offenses committed, not tell a story.

Deverus

The purpose of an information is to state the charges and inform the defendant of the offenses committed, not tell a story.

john123 2024-12-09 11:52 a.m.

whens the actual date

john123 2024-12-09 11:52 a.m.

for everything

Deverus

The purpose of an information is to state the charges and inform the defendant of the offenses committed, not tell a story.

mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:30 p.m.

can u upload to google drive too

mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:30 p.m.

so i dont have to keep downloading it

leoisnoob

though i move to dismiss counts eighteen and nineteen (Attempted Murder) on the grounds that the charging language is impermissibly vague

mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:30 p.m.

you do make a point here

mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:31 p.m.

however

mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:32 p.m.

the supporting pc statement does outline these steps

mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:32 p.m.

although i agree the state should of included those steps in the ci

mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:32 p.m.

ruling on pc:

mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:33 p.m.

im going to find probable cause for all counts of the information

mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:33 p.m.

@john123

coordinate with your lawyer about how you wish to plea to these charges

mike_bn 2024-12-09 12:33 p.m.

@leoisnoob

let me know once your client has decided how to move forward and ill schedule us for an arraignment

Deverus

The purpose of an information is to state the charges and inform the defendant of the offenses committed, not tell a story.

leoisnoob 2024-12-09 02:09 p.m.

it must inform the defendant of the offenses alleged with sufficient specificity

leoisnoob 2024-12-09 02:09 p.m.

in order to mount a defense

mike_bn

the supporting pc statement does outline these steps

leoisnoob 2024-12-09 02:33 p.m.

courts generally consider only the indictment itself to determine whether or not the indictment is sufficient United States v. Critzer, 951 F.2d 306, 307-08 (11th Cir. 1992)

leoisnoob 2024-12-09 02:35 p.m.

the affidavit may provide context but it is not part of the indictment

mike_bn 2024-12-09 03:11 p.m.

right but i take into account the pc statement

mike_bn 2024-12-09 03:11 p.m.

that goes into my determination

mike_bn 2024-12-09 03:11 p.m.

in the statement it outlined the steps and premeditation

mike_bn 2024-12-09 03:11 p.m.

theres a reason the rules of procedure require a statement, its not for show

leoisnoob

courts generally consider only the indictment itself to determine whether or not the indictment is sufficient United States v. Critzer, 951 F.2d 306, 307-08 (11th Cir. 1992)

mike_bn 2024-12-09 03:11 p.m.

im going to deny this

mike_bn 2024-12-09 03:12 p.m.

lets move toward arraignment

mike_bn 2024-12-09 03:12 p.m.

lets see how your client wants to plea

mike_bn 2024-12-09 03:13 p.m.

we are adjourned until tomorrow, i hope we have a plea decided by then

Deverus 2024-12-10 10:48 a.m.

PLEA AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE STATE AND THE DEFENDANT

cc: @mike_bn @john123 @leoisnoob

Deverus 2024-12-10 10:48 a.m.

Your honour, the State and the Defense have entered into a plea agreement.

Deverus 2024-12-10 10:51 a.m.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1X6GnCLOBkL8tk4nYJxtqBbP6O2vTMiSD/view?usp=sharing

CR-0037-24 Plea Agreement.pdf

Deverus 2024-12-10 10:51 a.m.

For your convenience, your honour.

Deverus

PLEA AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE STATE AND THE DEFENDANT cc: @mike_bn

@john123

@leoisnoob

mike_bn 2024-12-10 11:58 a.m.

wonderful

mike_bn 2024-12-10 11:58 a.m.

a quick resolution

mike_bn 2024-12-10 11:58 a.m.

i commend you counselors @Deverus

@leoisnoob

mike_bn 2024-12-10 12:00 p.m.

when can we meet for an arraignment

Deverus 2024-12-10 12:04 p.m.

I’m available tonight and tomorrow after 9PM EST.

Deverus

I’m available tonight and tomorrow after 9PM EST.

mike_bn 2024-12-10 12:10 p.m.

lets do a continuous arraignment

mike_bn 2024-12-10 12:10 p.m.

@john123

hello sir

mike_bn 2024-12-10 12:16 p.m.

lets do this

mike_bn 2024-12-10 12:17 p.m.

@john123

Do you swear that the evidence you shall give to the court in this matter shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, under the pains and penalties of perjury?

john123 2024-12-10 12:51 p.m.

yes

john123

yes

mike_bn 2024-12-10 01:01 p.m.

Great

mike_bn 2024-12-10 01:02 p.m.

once im home im going to ask you a chunk of questions

mike_bn 2024-12-10 01:02 p.m.

answer them in one chunk of text

mike_bn 2024-12-10 01:02 p.m.

in the order they are asked

mike_bn 2024-12-10 01:02 p.m.

does that work?

john123 2024-12-10 01:32 p.m.

john123

mike_bn 2024-12-10 06:25 p.m.

Questions for Defendant:

1. If there is something I say that you do not understand, or if you have a problem understanding a question I ask, please tell me and ask me to explain or repeat it. Do you understand that?

2. Are you feeling the effects right now of any medication, drugs or alcohol
that you may have consumed?

3. Do you feel alert, awake and clear-headed today?

4. You have the right to have an attorney represent you during all stages of the proceedings. The court will appoint an attorney for you to serve at public expense if you cannot afford an attorney of your own choice. Do you understand that?

5. Have you discussed this case completely with your attorney?

6. Are you confident that you understand your attorney's advice?

7. Have you listened carefully to that advice and thought about it in making
your decision to plead guilty?

8. The decision to plead guilty must be your own decision, not your attorney's.
Do you understand that?

9. Is this in fact your own decision to plead guilty?

10. Do you think that this is the best decision for you to make?

11. Is this decision also, at least in part, because you actually are guilty of the
crime you intend to admit?

Trial Rights Given Up:

12. If I accept your guilty plea you will be convicted of the crime to which you
are pleading guilty today, and you will not have a trial. Do you understand?

13. There are constitutional rights you would have at a trial, but you are giving
them up permanently in this case by pleading guilty. I need to make sure
that you understand the rights you are giving up.
a. You give up the right to enter or continue a plea of not guilty, and to
have a trial by jury with a lawyer assisting you.
b. You give up the right to be presumed innocent, and the right to have
the government prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you are guilty.
c. You give up the right to watch and listen as the witnesses against
you testify, and the right to confront those witnesses, that is to
question or challenge those witnesses. You give up the right to have
the court order witnesses you may have in your defense to come into
court and give testimony if you wanted to present a case.
d. You give up the right to chose whether to testify or to remain silent
during trial.
e. You give up the right to appeal your conviction
based on this plea, and the right to appeal your sentence as long as I
sentence you generally in accord with the way your sentence has
been estimated or recommended in the Rule 11 agreement.
f. Your decision to plead guilty means that you give up each of these
rights permanently in this case. Do you understand the rights I have
just explained?(edited)

mike_bn 2024-12-10 06:26 p.m.

@john123

mike_bn 2024-12-10 06:27 p.m.

Then @leoisnoob Are you aware of any negative information
concerning the defendant's competence that I should be aware of?

mike_bn

Then @leoisnoob Are you aware of any negative information concerning the defendant's competence that I should be aware of?

leoisnoob 2024-12-10 06:27 p.m.

No, your honor

leoisnoob

No, your honor

mike_bn 2024-12-10 06:27 p.m.

Thank you

mike_bn 2024-12-10 06:27 p.m.

ill continue with the other batch of questions once the defendant answers

mike_bn 2024-12-10 10:57 p.m.

@john123

let me know

mike_bn

Questions for Defendant: 1. If there is something I say that you do not understand, or if you have a problem understanding a question I ask, please tell me and ask me to explain ...(edited)

john123 2024-12-11 12:24 p.m.

1) Yes
2) No
3) Yes
4) Yes
5) Yes
6) Yes
7) Yes
8) Yes
9) Yes, under the circumstance I do not receive the death penalty, just a long sentence
10) Yes
11) I'm guilty to some crimes, I think some of the charges are exxagarated
12) Yes
13) Yes

john123 2024-12-11 12:25 p.m.

Also say I wanted to expunge my record that is impossible now due to the conviction correct?

john123

1) Yes 2) No 3) Yes 4) Yes 5) Yes 6) Yes 7) Yes 8) Yes 9) Yes, under the circumstance I do not receive the death penalty, just a long sentence 10) Yes 11) I'm guilty to some crimes...

mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:28 p.m.

Ok well im not convicting you if you believe you are innocent

mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:29 p.m.

when you say exaggerated, do you mean the charges are false
or they are just a bit of a strech, but true

john123 2024-12-11 01:29 p.m.

Well I dont want to run the risk of being executed

john123 2024-12-11 01:29 p.m.

at MNG

mike_bn

when you say exaggerated, do you mean the charges are false or they are just a bit of a strech, but true

john123 2024-12-11 01:29 p.m.

Some of them are just added charges

john123 2024-12-11 01:29 p.m.

That shouldnt be there(edited)

john123 2024-12-11 01:29 p.m.

I do think they have been exxagarated quite a bit

john123

Some of them are just added charges

mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:29 p.m.

But you agree the conduct outlined in the probable cause statement is true?

mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:30 p.m.

That you blew up a crowd of people

mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:31 p.m.

i cannot convict you unless you believe youre guilty on everything

john123 2024-12-11 01:36 p.m.

Is my lawyer allowed to speak for me

john123 2024-12-11 01:36 p.m.

Or do I have to do all the talking

mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:42 p.m.

you do

mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:42 p.m.

@john123

mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:43 p.m.

i mean if you’re afraid of admitting guilt, you already did that when you plead guilty

mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:43 p.m.

or when you do

mike_bn

i cannot convict you unless you believe youre guilty on everything

john123 2024-12-11 01:45 p.m.

Ok yes

john123 2024-12-11 01:45 p.m.

I am pleading guilty for all charges

john123

I am pleading guilty for all charges

mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:57 p.m.

Okay so you are accepting all the allegations as true

mike_bn 2024-12-11 01:58 p.m.

in the complaint

john123 2024-12-11 01:58 p.m.

yes

john123

yes

mike_bn 2024-12-11 02:13 p.m.

great

mike_bn 2024-12-11 02:18 p.m.

I hereby adjudicate the defendant guilty on all counts of the information

mike_bn 2024-12-11 02:19 p.m.

@Deverus

@leoisnoob

anything further before i impose a sentence?

mike_bn 2024-12-11 02:19 p.m.

also @john123 if i impose a condition not said in the agreement you have the right to withdraw your plea

mike_bn

also @john123 if i impose a condition not said in the agreement you have the right to withdraw your plea

john123 2024-12-11 02:21 p.m.

as long as theres is no death penalty

john123 2024-12-11 02:21 p.m.

I want to plead guilty

mike_bn

@Deverus

@leoisnoob anything further before i impose a sentence?

mike_bn 2024-12-11 02:37 p.m.

mike_bn

@Deverus

@leoisnoob anything further before i impose a sentence?

Deverus 2024-12-11 02:44 p.m.

Per the stipulation of the plea agreement, the state is recommending that the court sentence the defendant to 930 minutes imprisonment, which is the total sum of the maximum sentence for all counts charged.

That is all, your honour.

mike_bn

john123 2024-12-11 02:44 p.m.

I doubt my lawyer has anything else to say

john123 2024-12-11 02:44 p.m.

but we can wait if thats what u want

john123

I doubt my lawyer has anything else to say

mike_bn 2024-12-11 02:46 p.m.

ill enter my sentence once home to give your attorney time

mike_bn 2024-12-11 02:46 p.m.

then ill verify all of our procedural obligations were met

john123 2024-12-11 02:49 p.m.

mike_bn

@Deverus

@leoisnoob anything further before i impose a sentence?

leoisnoob 2024-12-11 05:13 p.m.

No your honor

leoisnoob 2024-12-11 05:14 p.m.

However due to my clients cooperation in this case, I would ask you to please consider a less lengthy sentence then Mr Deverus’s recommendation. No one wants to spend 930 minutes imprisoned on a Roblox game

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:35 p.m.

@john123

@leoisnoob

@Deverus

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:37 p.m.

i find that the defendant is mentally compenent and understands the ramifications with entering a guilty plea. I also find that he understands his rights, and that he voluntarily waives them

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:37 p.m.

thus the defendant is competent to enter their guilty plea, and the court accepts that guilty plea

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:38 p.m.

as for sentencing, 930 minutes is over half a day in prison

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:38 p.m.

i have to balance fairness but also public safety

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:39 p.m.

the defendant admitted to using a explosive device to bomb a populated area, killing over a dozen people

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:40 p.m.

however, 930 minutes is a long ass time

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:40 p.m.

i recongize the agreement, but thats a bit much

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:41 p.m.

my sentence:

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:47 p.m.

I hereby adjudicate the defendant guilty on all counts of the information. I sentence the Defendant to 720 minutes of incarceration.

I am also imposing these additional terms:
- the defendant is NOT to further possess any explosive devices, if he has any in his possession, he shall surrender them upon turning himself in
- the defendant must seek gainful employment or a demonstrate a legal means of financially supporting himself within 7 days of being released from custody
- when i enter this order in game, the defendant MUST, within 24 hrs, turn himself in

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:47 p.m.

@leoisnoob

@john123

@Deverus

Deverus 2024-12-11 06:47 p.m.

You’re entering it as a conviction, and not as a warrant- correct?

Deverus 2024-12-11 06:48 p.m.

Just the concern of the in-game arrest system not being able to enact the full sentence, your honor.

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:48 p.m.

yes a conviction

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:48 p.m.

if hes convicted does he automatically teleport to jail?

Deverus 2024-12-11 06:48 p.m.

Understood. The verbiage of your order seemed to suggest it may be a warrant.

To my understand, yes he does your honour. @mike_bn

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:49 p.m.

great then scratch that term

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:49 p.m.

let me go in game and enter this order

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:49 p.m.

ill enter my affirmative findings in the order

mike_bn

I hereby adjudicate the defendant guilty on all counts of the information. I sentence the Defendant to 720 minutes of incarceration. I am also imposing these additional terms: -...

john123 2024-12-11 06:52 p.m.

Respectfully your honor

john123 2024-12-11 06:52 p.m.

I doubt il be hired to any job with a 17x felony record

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:52 p.m.

gainful employment means anything

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:52 p.m.

do cargo

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:53 p.m.

work for a private company

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:53 p.m.

taxi job

john123 2024-12-11 06:53 p.m.

I do wood

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:53 p.m.

show proof of that

mike_bn 2024-12-11 06:53 p.m.

and we are set

john123 2024-12-11 06:53 p.m.

When can i join in game

john123 2024-12-11 06:53 p.m.

To do my sentence

john123

To do my sentence

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:24 p.m.

ill lyk

mike_bn

ill lyk

john123 2024-12-11 07:43 p.m.

Oh yeah

john123 2024-12-11 07:44 p.m.

While we are in the courtroom your honour i have something unrelated to the case but I want to report it directly to you

john123 2024-12-11 07:44 p.m.

Is that ok

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:46 p.m.

The Defendant was charged on the 16th of November, 2024, with seventeen counts of First Degree Murder, two counts of Attempted Murder, six counts of Arson, and one count of Discharging of a Destructive Device Causing Death or Bodily Harm. The Defendant later, in an agreement with the state, plead guilty to all counts of the information, in exchange for the state not pursuing the death penalty, and instead imposing a 930 minute sentence.

The court accepted the Defendant's guilty plea. In reviewing sentencing, the court must consider the aggravating circumstances surrounding the incident. The Defendant admitted to utilizing a bomb to cause death and destruction to a large gathering of people, causing the death of 17, and tens of thousands of dollars in property damage.

The court must now consider what is fair for justice, and the Defendant. I find that a sentence of over 16 hours in lego jail is too much, thus, the court enters as follows:

- The Defendant shall be sentenced to 720 minutes of incarceration upon release of this order. 
- The Defendant, within one week of completing his sentence, must demonstrate he is gainfully employed in a lawful area of business (working for a company, or conducting trade). 
- The Defendant is not to ever again possess any explosive devices, upon being released from incarceration. If the Defendant has explosive devices in his possession, he is to turn them over to a law enforcement officer, who is not permitted to charge the Defendant with such possession.

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:46 p.m.

the arrest order is published @john123

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:46 p.m.

let me know if you go to jail

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:46 p.m.

we will keep this open until jan 2, which is when we will review if the other conditions of the sentence are met

mike_bn

the arrest order is published @john123

john123 2024-12-11 07:47 p.m.

does that mean i can join now

john123 2024-12-11 07:47 p.m.

and get arreested

john123

does that mean i can join now

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:47 p.m.

yes

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:47 p.m.

you should tp to jail

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:47 p.m.

let me know

john123 2024-12-11 07:47 p.m.

we shall see

john123

we shall see

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:49 p.m.

lmk

mike_bn

lmk

john123 2024-12-11 07:49 p.m.

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:49 p.m.

okay great

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:49 p.m.

cant you leave and the sentence will still run

john123 2024-12-11 07:49 p.m.

this sentence equivalent of like 80 years

john123 2024-12-11 07:49 p.m.

irl

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:49 p.m.

80 years for murdering 15 people aint bad

john123 2024-12-11 07:50 p.m.

realistically irl id have infinite

john123 2024-12-11 07:50 p.m.

years

mike_bn

cant you leave and the sentence will still run

john123 2024-12-11 07:50 p.m.

yea

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:50 p.m.

ok great

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:50 p.m.

enjoy your 12 hours of

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:50 p.m.

cell time

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:50 p.m.

dont drop the soap!

john123 2024-12-11 07:50 p.m.

i havent been playing anyway dont wanna accidently incriminate myself more

john123 2024-12-11 07:51 p.m.

during a high profile court case

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:51 p.m.

we are adjourned until JAN 2

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:51 p.m.

@john123

speak to your attorney about your progress with the 2 other conditions

john123 2024-12-11 07:51 p.m.

mike_bn

@john123 speak to your attorney about your progress with the 2 other conditions

john123 2024-12-11 07:52 p.m.

do u want me to report progress to him

john123 2024-12-11 07:52 p.m.

about the legal job

john123 2024-12-11 07:52 p.m.

or directly to you

john123 2024-12-11 07:52 p.m.

or report it to him and he report it to you

mike_bn 2024-12-11 07:52 p.m.

him

john123 2024-12-11 07:52 p.m.

mike_bn 2024-12-11 11:11 p.m.

adjourned until jan 2

mike_bn 2024-12-29 09:52 a.m.

@john123

ok do you have proof of lawful employment/self employment

john123 2024-12-30 06:11 a.m.

john123 2024-12-30 06:12 a.m.

Work for lander taxi

john123 2024-12-30 06:12 a.m.

@mike_bn

john123

Click to see attachment.

mike_bn 2024-12-30 07:08 a.m.

amazing!

mike_bn 2024-12-30 07:08 a.m.

@Deverus

anything further before i archive?

Deverus 2025-01-04 04:59 p.m.

non

john123 2025-03-02 04:55 p.m.

@mike_bn

john123 2025-03-02 04:55 p.m.

Ik this is way past now but when could I expunge this(edited)

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